8/27 & 8/28: Glenn Beck’s Divine Destiny: Evangelicals Without The Evangel



Desert SceneMormon talk show host Glenn Beck has added an event called “Divine Destiny” to his Washington, DC rally schedule where “nationally-known religious figures from all faiths will unite to deliver messages reminiscent to those given during the struggles of America’s earliest days.”  Beck continues:

I have met with the biggest leaders of faith in the country privately and I have asked them to help me put differences aside and to reach out with one another so we can remind people to get down on their knees for our brothers’ shield in our danger’s hour.

You will fully understand on 8 28 what is about to happen to this country and who is coming, who is willing to stand.  I have been telling you for awhile this will be a historic moment.  I promise you that it will be.  I promise you.  I have promised you before and I have personally seen them already.  I have told you, prepare to witness mighty and powerful miracles.  I have already seen them.  What you will witness on September 28th, the beginning of a restoration you and your children will never forget. 

Who are these big name faith leaders Beck has been talking to? He has dropped numerous hints that a couple of guests on stage August 28th for his Restoring Honor rally will be huge shockers as they show their solidarity with Glenn’s plans and perhaps affirm his own faith tradition, Mormonism.   Does Beck refuse to give their names because there remains the possibility they will still back out? One could hope.

There is speculation that two surprise guests could be Billy Graham and Pope Benedict.  It is not hard to imagine Billy Graham appearing in person, if his health permits. He could also appear by satellite or through his children, Franklin Graham or Anne Graham Lotz.   I don’t think the Pope will appear in person, though perhaps he too will prepare a brief video greeting for the crowd.

Participants certainly include Wallbuilders founder, David Barton; crusade and television evangelist James Robison, and Jerry Falwell, Jr., son of the Moral Majority founder of the same name.

I hope James Dobson stays home. He has appeared on Beck’s shows many times, but has never personally validated Beck’s faith.  His participation, however, might be considered a betrayal by many who have supported Focus on the Family in the past.

Other evangelicals whose ecumenical attitudes might not restrain them from attending include Joel Osteen (who is no gospel preacher at all) and Rick Warren. Warren’s Purpose Driven Church-Growth Seminars, according to USA Today, are open to Mormon congregations.

On the other hand, I don’t think men like Chuck Colson, founder of Prison Fellowship, will go.  His comments found in this CNN interview about a civility covenant Colson signed are to the point:

I asked how the document would apply to the recent feud between Glenn Beck and Jim Wallis [over the meaning and significance of social justice, DS]

On the one hand, the conservative Colson is politically aligned with Beck. But he’s also buds with Wallis, who orchestrated the covenant.

Colson’s answered surprised me:

The document “wouldn’t apply to Glenn Beck because we’re talking about the conversation in the family of believers … Glenn Beck is a Mormon.”

What makes Beck’s task difficult is his Mormonism, which he himself recognizes:  “I have been reaching out to the biggest names in faith for the last year.  It has been extraordinarily difficult because of my faith and because of who I am.”

Jesus Christ’s Church has universally rejected Mormonism’s Anti-Trinitarian theology and its claim that mortals may become God.  Beck asks Christian leaders to “put differences aside,” but Beck himself daily peppers his broadcasts with Mormon distinctives because he cannot keep his beliefs to himself.  Would to God that American Christian leaders couldn’t keep the gospel to themselves either!  

Given that the host of this rally is a Mormon, what will all these pastors and evangelists message be? 

If how they have handled similar situations thus far is any indication, the message will be muddled at best, and a total surrender of the gospel (the evangel) at worst.  The entire Graham family embraced the late Pope John Paul II as a Christian brother and ecumenism has been as much a part of the elder Graham’s crusades as evangelism.  According to Billy, even Franklin, for his part, has stopped calling Islam a wicked religion.

Many evangelical leaders have already shown so little backbone in sharing the gospel with Beck that their absence from the rally would be a greater surprise than their presence.   Barton, who has devoted his life to the promulgation of the idea that we are a Christian Nation, signed on early as lead speaker in the area of “Faith” for Beck’s pre-rally events.  When there were protests over Liberty University’s invitation for Beck to be the commencement speaker, Elmer Towns, co-founder of L.U., said Barton relayed to him “Glenn Beck prayed to receive Christ.”  Never mind that Beck has never renounced any of the false teachings about God that Mormons hold.

James Robison has given Beck’s personal faith a ringing endorsement:

            I wish every believer, every pastor, every church leader; every person who cares about this country could hear your 20 or 30 minutes of your personal testimony on your Tuesday program. I trust that’s posted online. Because my wife sat and wept for 20 minutes. She had to get up and go get a box of Kleenex…. And Glenn, you are one of the clearest voices on this planet for truth, and I want you to know as an evangelical Christian and church leader with one of the most watched television programs live today on the planet, you are a voice crying in the wilderness….The family of faith, the family of God of which you are a part — and we may have differences, but we understand that the bottom line is the truth of God.

If these ministers cannot see that Beck’s profession of faith is not according to Scripture, why should we expect that they will preach the true gospel when the crowds surrounding Beck reach the tens or hundreds of thousands.   Whether the problem is Pluralism for rank and file participants as I stated in an earlier post, or Mormonism, which I will tackle next week, the question for this week is simple:  Have the evangelists and pastors fallen for the lie expressed by Jerry Falwell, Jr. when he said “there are bigger issues now, we can argue about theology later after we save the country?”  Nevertheless, the Bible tells us the opposite:  Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain. (Psalm 127:1)

There can be no reformation, restoration, without the preaching of the gospel of grace.  You can’t have revival without the Reviver.  When Jim Garlow, who helped organize the ProtectMarriage.com -Yes on Proposition 8 campaign and is pastor of Skyline Wesleyan Church in San Diego “had a word” for Beck’s audience this week he emphasized reformation and repentance, but there was no mention of grace, the cross or the resurrection power of God.

Jeremiah 2:11-13 Hath a nation changed their gods, which are yet no gods? but my people have changed their glory for that which doth not profit. Be astonished, O ye heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith the LORD. For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.  

Dozens of other leaders may have been invited to the event to be held at the Kennedy Center for t he Performing Arts on August 27th. Who are they and what will they proclaim?   

Posting a response below is your opportunity to make suggestions as to who Glenn Beck’s surprise guests might be.  

Glenn Beck and MLK

Glenn Beck and George Whitefield

Glenn Beck – Current Events & Politics – 8/28 Rally Update

Glenn Beck – Interview with James Robison.

Chuck Colson CNN Interview

Beck Speaks at Liberty University

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  • http://kenreads.wordpress.com kenleonard

    I keep hoping that something will be enough for Christians to wake up and realize that Glenn Beck is a liar, and worse than that he is a liar who is working to get into people’s spiritual lives.

    The man already claims that God speaks through him, that we will be judged by our works, and all sorts of other things. I can no longer take his blasphemy in more than very small doses … I try listening to his show just so that I can keep informed about what he’s doing.

    Barton is willing to show up because no more-reputable people are really willing to have him on anymore. He’s been caught in too many factual errors over the years.

    As for who might show up … I don’t know. Rick Warren wouldn’t surprise me. I’m not sure that Joel Osteen is willing to take that much of a stand on anything, but I wouldn’t be too surprised.

    Falwell let Beck speak at Liberty University, so I agree with you that he’s a likely speaker.

    I don’t see the Pope going, and I’d be surprised if there was more than a platitude via video.

    Other guesses? I’d expect it to be more people whose version of Christianity is more political than spiritual. The type who are willing to try to serve two masters — the world and the Word.

    Glenn Beck is among the blind. The question is, who is willing to line up behind him and let him lead? And what are the rest of us doing about it?

    • http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?author=22 David Shedlock

      Thanks for your participation, Ken.

  • http://www.bonejangles.com Guy Incognito

    This series is about as petulant as it is intolerant, but thanks for confirming everything I’ve ever suspected about the Tea Party. There’s too much sectarian backbiting for you guys to ever achieve anything, and social conservatives will just be manipulated by more powerful, unified corporate interests until you can learn to put aside your differences and work together. Mormonism isn’t blasphemy, it’s a different religion. Be tolerant. But then again, if you guys were tolerant in the first place you wouldn’t be in the Tea Party. Sort of a Catch 2, huh?

    • http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?author=22 David Shedlock

      You’re always welcome here, Guy.

      I have never been to a tea party meeting.

      I do not take the Beck rally to be about working together for anything but Beck, his strange view of history and our founders, and his religion.

      Mormonism IS blasphemy for it suggests that the Creator of the universe was once a man, and that you and I can become God. That defines blasphemy.

      • Excal

        Mormonism is NOT blasphemy. You must be careful, because in maintaining this, you are partaking of the same spirit the Jews did, when they accused Jesus of the same thing. Now, you think you know better, because they didn’t know, as you do, that Jesus is God, but you miss the point, David.

        You accuse the Mormons of being polytheistic, because, like Peter, James, John and Paul, they believe that Christ will cleanse Christians from all sin, raise them from the dead to immortality, give them to partake of the divine nature and grant unto them to sit with him in his throne, as he sits with his Father in his throne.

        That someday all these sinless, immortal, rulers will rule and reign with Christ and his Father as One, which is what Jesus prayed for, is as Christian and Biblical as we can get.

        It’s the precepts of men that you insist on defending, not the doctrine of Christ. But remember what the Lord promised in Isaiah:

        “Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.”

        Commenting on this in the Book of Mormon, the Savior taught:

        “For in that day, for my sake shall the Father work a work, which shall be a great and a marvelous work among them; and there shall be among them those who will not believe it, although a man shall declare it unto them.
        But behold, the life of my servant shall be in my hand; therefore they shall not hurt him, although he shall be marred because of them. Yet I will heal him, for I will show unto them that my wisdom is greater than the cunning of the devil.”

        Surely, the servants of God have been and no doubt yet will be marred, because of the unbelieving Gentiles. Just as the unbelieving Jews sought to kill Jesus, because he told them the truth, the unbelieving Gentiles will seek the lives of the Mormons, because they tell them the truth.

        I don’t look forward to this, but it is always the case isn’t it? It must needs be that offenses come, but woe unto him by whom they come.

    • Joe Baker

      F.Y.I.: CNBC’s Rick Santelli, not affilliated with any religion sparked the T.E.A. Party.

    • Susie Homemaker

      Following a different gospel is blasphemy…and heresy.

    • troy starks

      That would be catch 22

  • craig workman

    Beck and his research team need to look into Joseph Smith’s history.

    • http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?author=22 David Shedlock

      Would it do any good?

  • Jay Randall

    Actually, James Robison will not be there. He agrees with Beck’s concern for the nation, but has made it clear that he does not agree with or endorse Mormonism. He does, however, believe in reaching out to Beck to try to minister to him personally.

    • http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?author=22 David Shedlock

      Thanks for your comment. I would love it if you could link to where he made it clear. Are you denying or has Robision retracted what appears to be a ringing endorsement of Beck’s personal salvation and testimony?

      • Jay Randall

        I cannot deny that you have an opinion on the matter, so I won’t bother. What I can provide you is Robison’s response to those of us who contacted him with a similar concern after the radio interview you’re referring.

        Thank you for your concern. I assume you are listening to Glenn Beck not because he is a Mormon, but because, like me, you appreciate his concern for our country.

        I have not only prayed for Glenn, I have been praying with Glenn and talking with him about spiritual truth. I am grateful for his receptiveness.

        Glenn pointed out this morning, and I confirmed, that we have theological differences – very significant differences. Even so, we can still find ways to cooperate for the benefit of our nation. The same is true for other denominations that claim to follow Jesus Christ, yet hold to beliefs with which I strongly disagree. I am not willing to cut myself off from everyone that does not align with me theologically while our country is being led in such a dangerous direction. Much of the Christian church, along with people of all faiths, are being led toward the destruction of freedom. I will not compromise my faith, nor will I compromise the future of my children and grandchildren.

        Please join me in praying for Glenn, and I will continue to talk with him, pray with him and encourage him. Betty and I appreciate your prayers.

        Sincerely yours,
        James Robison

      • http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?author=22 David Shedlock

        I pray that Robison is sharing the true gospel with Glenn. I pray for him, also. I wish that Robison would have clarified what seemed to be an affirmation that Beck’s testimony was a credible profession of faith.

      • Ty

        I’m very disappointed in the posts here. You appear to be so blinded by your hatred of Mormonism that you can’t recognize Glenn’s sincere love for the Savior. I am quite certain that God could and would call forth prophets in our day as in Biblical times if he sees the need to do so. This obsession with upholding the Nicene view of the Trinity is really bad for mainstream Christianity. Christ never taught of a God without body, parts, or passions. This was a false doctrine imposed by corrupt churchmen and Christians would be wise to come to know God as He really is. Like Beck does it seems. Just a bit of advice.

  • Susie Homemaker

    I totally agree…there can not be any reformation without The Reformer. Christians, read your Bibles.

  • http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?author=22 David Shedlock

    Thanks for your participation, Susie.

  • Joe Baker

    If you’re afraid of Glenns religion, you must have very little faith in your own. As a Catholic I see many flaws in Mormanism beliefs, but others make the same claim about Catholicism. Please don’t lose sight of the truth, our Government is over reaching, over taxing, using religion when it suits them and removing religion, almost erasing it completely. Wake up and smell the kool aid. America is the only place on earth for the freedoms we enjoy, no where else. If you’re not happy here, feel free to leave.

    • http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?author=22 David Shedlock

      Joe, thanks for your input.

      First, I am not afraid of Mr. Beck’s religion. My faith is not in my religion but in the Gracious God of the Universe who sent his Son to die in my place.

      Your comments about taxes, etc. have nothing to do with Beck’s rally. He has said that it is not about politics, but religion. It is his religions that are the problem: pluralism, and Mormonism.

      I think you meant wake up and smell the coffee, most people don’t drink kool-aid when they wake up. It does seem to me that it is the Beck folks who are drinking Kool-Aid on this one.

      I am very happy and grateful for the freedoms we have here. Glenn Beck’s rally does nothing to help me keep my freedom, which ultimately comes from God.

  • Susie Homemaker

    Ultimately, we are instructed to pray..Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven
    The founder of the Mormon religion, Joseph Smith, was a “see-er” and claimed to have been given a new revelation..check Deuteronomy 13:1-3
    The Lord takes this very seriously, I’m afraid.
    “Let him not deceive himself by trusting what is worthless,
    for he will get nothing in return.” Job 15:31
    It is tempting to think that this rally is something righteous, but Susie Homemaker will not be anywhere near it.
    BTW, I also believe in reaching out to Beck and pray frequently for his true conversion.

  • belikejeanvaljean

    What reason does Glenn Beck give for his secretiveness about the pastors who will be attending? And why would the pastors/religious leaders themselves also keep this a secret? Faith isn’t a game, and evangelism if that’s what Beck calls the nature of this event, isn’t something done in a corner. Promoting faith in God should not be an extravaganza with the big reveal to much applause of “the biggest leaders of faith” either. Where is the humility of the nation’s religious leaders today? I truly hope that our country’s evangelical pastors do not sell out like David Barton has done. Satan masquerades as an angel of light.

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  • Gary

    I would not be surprised if any of these men are there: Rick Warren; Bill Hybles; T.D. Jakes; Benny Hinn; John Hagee; Jose Luis de Jesus. (Joel Osteen, too, but I agree with earlier comments about him.)

    I would be astounded and greatly disappointed if any of these men were there: John MacArthur; Alistair Begg; R.C. Sproul; Al Mohler; Norm Geisler; David Noebel; Ken Ham.

  • http://hereiblog.com/ Mark

    David,

    I’m not sure why you linked a cache version of my post since it’s up and I don’t plan on removing it. :)

    Anyway, I don’t know who Beck’s surprise guest might be. I can’t believe some American Christians are so taken by the culture they’ve put the gospel as secondary.

    • http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?author=22 David Shedlock

      Sometimes I use the cache version to make it easier for the reader to find the quotations I have cited since they are highlighted in that version.

  • Jane

    The ‘Restoring Honor” rally is about God, not any one particular religion. Dr. Alveda King’s motivation for participation:
    http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/Opinion/2010/0826/Glenn-Beck-8-28-rally-It-s-a-matter-of-honor

  • Excal

    Maybe you should back off the caffeinated drinks. How long can you resist the Spirit of God?

    Glenn Beck’s own message is not the message of a prophet, but one that points to the messages of the prophets: “We should repent now and return to the God of our fathers, lest we perish!”

    How is it that you continue to find fault with that message? Is it because the messenger believes something you don’t? This country needs to repent, because the sword of the justice of the Eternal God hangs over it. That’s a message every Evangelical should concur with.

    Would God destroy the Gentiles if they all repented and came unto him in faith, humility and meekness, or would he heal their land?

    Even if they all came as you believe they should and accepted the doctrine of Christ, as Evangelicals teach they should, Glenn Beck would rejoice and give thanks to God.

    But you care more about convincing Americans to disbelieve the message of Mormonism than you do about convincing them to repent and to come unto Christ. Hypocrite!

    • Excal

      Sorry. That’s too harsh. I think it’s hypocritical, but I shouldn’t have stooped to name-calling. Forgive me, please.

    • http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?author=22 David Shedlock

      “How is it that you continue to find fault with that message?”

      Because the god of our fathers, if he means Jefferson, J Smith, or one of the early heretics is not God at all. I agree about repentance, but it is repentance about lots of things, including acceptance of the belief that God is essentially of the same essence as we are. I don’t think Beck would rejoice at all. He deliberately rejects the actual preaching of George Whitefield and he has been attacking Biblical Christianity regularly as of late, especially the writers of the Nicene Creed.

      Calling me names is unwarranted, but it is a free country.

      • Excal

        No, David. “The God of our fathers” is the God who brought them to this land of promise, because of their faith in him. He delivered the Gentiles from captivity and freed them from the tyranny of their mother Gentile countries, because they believed the Bible and received the witness of the Holy Ghost that Jesus is the Christ.

        He set the Gentiles up as a free nation and blessed them above all other nations on earth, preparing for the time when he would proceed to do a marvelous work and a wonder among them, when Lebanon would become a fruitful field and the fruitful field be esteemed as a forest.

        But, as he promised, the terrible one shall be brought to naught, the scorner shall be consumed and all who watch for iniquity shall be cut off; including all they that make a man an offender for a word and lay a snare for him that speaks the truth to power and turn aside the just for a thing of naught. Therefore, thus saith the Lord, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob:

        “Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now wax pale. But when he sees his children, the work of mine hands, in the midst of him, they shall sanctify my name, and sanctify the Holy One of Jacob, and shall fear the God of Israel. They also that erred in spirit shall come to understanding, and they that murmured shall learn doctrine.”

      • http://caffeinatedthoughts.com/?author=22 David Shedlock

        I don’t know of any way to say this kindly: That is a made up story with virtually know historical evidence to back it up. Like Beck, Joseph Smith or whoever authored the Book of Mormon made up things as they went.

      • Excal

        Yep, we speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and you receive not our witness. You want historical evidence. Faith is not sufficient for you.

        If it were sufficient, you would receive our witness in faith and then do what Jesus said you must do to know the truth: do the will of God:

        “And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
        10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
        11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?
        12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?
        13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?”

      • Susie Homemaker

        “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned! 9As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!” Galatians 1:7-9

        Who exactly is Moroni?

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