Ask Congressman Bachmann or Senator Santorum: Will you support Romney or Pawlenty, if they win the GOP nomination?



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Who Else Will Take the Plunge?

FAMiLY Leader Pledge: Suicidal Pact With the Devil. 

I wish I were overstating the case.  I have already established the wrongness of adding to our “yea and nay”.  It is actually an admission that you can’t take us at our word.  I have also stated I am not against certain vows in formal cases, but political gain is not one of those cases.  I should also say here that I would likely lean towards Bachmann or Santorum for the GOP nomination (and possibly Pawlenty), regardless of whether they signed “The Pledge”.  This is not about protecting my candidate as some people are already claiming.  I don’t have one, yet.

It is necessary now to establish one more nearly undeniable fact, and issue a challenge.  It is that neither Bachmann nor Santorum can or will actually keep the pledge.  It is simple.  The vow requires a promise, before God, that they will not support any candidate who refuses to sign the pledge.  A betting man would be safe to risk a million bucks that both of these candidates will blatantly violate the pledge long before November, 2012.

Keep in mind that the pledge not only requires that you keep the pledge yourself, but that you will not in any way support a candidate who refuses to sign the pledge.  Here is the critical part: The Vow Itself:

The Vow of Civic, Religious, Lay, Business, and Social Leaders:

We the undersigned do hereby solemnly vow* that no U.S. Presidential primary candidate – nor any primary candidate for the U. S. House, Senate, Governor, state or municipal office – will, in his or her public capacity, benefit from any substantial form of aid, support, endorsement, contribution, independent expenditure, or affirmation from any of us without first affirming this Marriage Vow. Furthermore, to uphold and advance the natural Institution of Marriage, we ourselves also hereby vow* our own fidelity to this Declaration and especially, to our spouses.

Here is the two-fold challenge. 

Ask Congressman Bachmann or Senator Santorum “Will you support Romney or Pawlenty if they win the GOP nomination?”   Keeping the vow means the answer is “no”.

Ask them this follow-up question:

“If you are picked to be the GOP nominee for president are you promising that you will not endorse or campaign for any candidate who refuses to sign the pledge?   

(For Rick Santorum add this, ask him if he will promise never to vote or endorse someone like Arlen Specter again.  If Rick Perry gets in and signs the pledge, ask about his endorsement of Rudy Giuliani.)

I warned readers that the vow would make vow-breakers out of decent, God-fearing people.  Upon further reflection, it is much, much worse than I thought.  It is also tearing up a segment of the body of Christ.  I don’t think Bob Vander Plaats sees what is going on in the trenches.

This has been one of the most divisive political acts I can ever remember.  It could end up splitting, not just the Republican Party (that is the least of our worries), but dividing Christians. 

I have been shocked to see Huckabee supporters[1] run not just to defend taking the pledge, which is fine (to each his own, if he or she can keep it); but some are using it as a hammer to bludgeon other Christians, calling into question their faith, and using it to condemn candidates and their supporters.  This is pharisaical legalism at its worst.  And it is exactly these evils Jesus warned about that accompany unwarranted vows.

 

 

 


[1] Huckabee has not commented, as far as I can tell, on the pledge.  Many of his supporters are saying that they wouldn’t support him if he didn’t take the pledge.  This is foolishness.  Regardless of what you think of Huckabee’s other positions, there is not a political leader among us who has been more solid on life and family issues.  This shows the wickedness of the whole pledge thing.   Its proponents have raised their own opinions and schemes above the character and record of Godly men, as well as the word of God.

 

 

 

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LB3LDHWZXK7GXIW6DYVOYSVPHE SJ

    I hadn’t heard of the pledge.  However, I have felt “Christian” peer pressure to make a vow before.  Many years ago, I attended the InterVarsity Urbana conference.  It used to be every 3 years, but I don’t even know if it’s still going on.  Anyway, at the end of the conference, they encouraged (almost to the point of arm-twisting, IMO) the attendees to make vows to do at least a short-term mission.  I can’t remember exactly how we were supposed to “make” the vow, but I believe the instructions were simply, “If you are willing to make this vow, then stand up [literally].”  I definitely did not make the vow–I seem to remember sitting in my chair, while it seemed like droves were standing in the arena.  At the time, I almost felt like a scumbag for not making the vow.  Later that night, we had a small-group session in which we each discussed whether we had made the vow or not.  (Wow, that sounds pretty manipulative, doesn’t it?  Why was it even anyone else’s business?)  There were about 9 of us in the group, and I think only one other person besides me didn’t make the vow.  It was hard being in the minority, but looking back, I know it was definitely the right decision.  A couple years later, I remember talking to one girl from my university who had attended the conference, and she said something like, “I really hope I’ll be able to find some way to keep my vow.”  That’s a shame that she even had to be worried about it.

    Anyway, David, you make excellent points about how vows can degenerate into pharisaical legalism and easily turn well-meaning folks into vow-breakers.  The pledge in question seems like so much overkill, so I don’t have a problem with those who don’t sign it.

    I suspect that Bachmann and/or Santorum didn’t even really read the pledge.  Their reaction was probably something like, “I pledge allegiance to the . . . well . . . whatever” and then they just blindly signed the document, in the same way that everyone automatically clicks “Yes, I agree to the user terms of service” when installing an application.  LOL.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Shedlock/100000472261599 David Shedlock

      My friend Randy Davis memorized the following Scripture as a youth:

      Ecclesiastes 5:2 Be not
      rash with thy mouth, and let not thine heart be hasty to utter
      [any] thing before God: for God [is] in heaven, and thou
      upon earth: therefore let thy words be few. {5:3} For a
      dream cometh through the multitude of business; and a
      fool’s voice [is known] by multitude of words. {5:4} When
      thou vowest a vow unto God, defer not to pay it; for [he
      hath] no pleasure in fools: pay that which thou hast vowed.
      {5:5} Better [is it] that thou shouldest not vow, than that
      thou shouldest vow and not pay. {5:6} Suffer not thy mouth
      to cause thy flesh to sin; neither say thou before the angel,
      that it [was] an error: wherefore should God be angry at thy
      voice, and destroy the work of thine hands? {5:7} For in the
      multitude of dreams and many words [there are] also
      [divers] vanities: but fear thou God.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_LB3LDHWZXK7GXIW6DYVOYSVPHE SJ

        That’s a good passage, echoed a bit by James 1:19:  “Everyone should be quick to listen, slow to speak….”  

  • http://caffeinatedthoughts.com Shane Vander Hart

    Good post David!

  • dont ask

    I will support Ron Paul.

    If your not supporting Ron Paul, your not in the war, your not in the game, you dont matter and will be eliminated.

    There IS a war on for your mind. And if you have not realized it yet then you probably don’t matter.

    Me ? I know for a fact there is and im going head on against the elite establishment.

    I do not care about the patry of either side, I only care about our Constitution.

    Ron Paul is the Champion of the Constitution and so I and millions will support him.

    Obama is done, even if lobbyists give him billions, won’t matter. He has lied over and over. HE’ S DONE FOR.

    Wake up. if the establishment wins this time, America and all traditions will be swept away. 

  • dont ask

    I will support Ron Paul.

    If your not supporting Ron Paul, your not in the war, your not in the game, you dont matter and will be eliminated.

    There IS a war on for your mind. And if you have not realized it yet then you probably don’t matter.

    Me ? I know for a fact there is and im going head on against the elite establishment.

    I do not care about the patry of either side, I only care about our Constitution.

    Ron Paul is the Champion of the Constitution and so I and millions will support him.

    Obama is done, even if lobbyists give him billions, won’t matter. He has lied over and over. HE’ S DONE FOR.

    Wake up. if the establishment wins this time, America and all traditions will be swept away. 

  • dont ask

    I will support Ron Paul.

    If your not supporting Ron Paul, your not in the war, your not in the game, you dont matter and will be eliminated.

    There IS a war on for your mind. And if you have not realized it yet then you probably don’t matter.

    Me ? I know for a fact there is and im going head on against the elite establishment.

    I do not care about the patry of either side, I only care about our Constitution.

    Ron Paul is the Champion of the Constitution and so I and millions will support him.

    Obama is done, even if lobbyists give him billions, won’t matter. He has lied over and over. HE’ S DONE FOR.

    Wake up. if the establishment wins this time, America and all traditions will be swept away. 

  • dont ask

    LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS
    AND
    DEATH TO WORLD GOVERNMENT.

  • dont ask

    LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS
    AND
    DEATH TO WORLD GOVERNMENT.

  • dont ask

    LONG LIVE THE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS
    AND
    DEATH TO WORLD GOVERNMENT.

  • dont ask

    You notice how Paul’s name is being left out everwhere ? Well we do and this is just verification that there is a driving force in the upper establishment.

    Even though he raised more that every republican except Romney , which by the way Romney gets 90% of his earnings from lobbyists and pac’s, same as obama.

    COME ON PEOPLE, Find out who the lobbyists and establishment hate and that is who you should support, why ?

    because your not a lobbyist, your not a PAC, your not in the estabishment. They don’t a flying F___ about you. To them your nothing but a tax coffer.

    INFOWARS.COM because theres a war on for your mind.

    • Randomguy

      If I agreed with everything you believed and wanted everything you wanted…I’d still never hear you.  Your conspiracy-theory-freak-show-grammatically-challenged way of communicating is never going to CHANGE anything except to make you increasingly bitter as you fail to succeed in changing culture or politics as usual.  Sorry, man.  Get some tact, stay grammatically classy, and work to restore the system with intelligence.  If you have the cognitive skills to do so, you’ll be much happier for it.

    • Randomguy

      If I agreed with everything you believed and wanted everything you wanted…I’d still never hear you.  Your conspiracy-theory-freak-show-grammatically-challenged way of communicating is never going to CHANGE anything except to make you increasingly bitter as you fail to succeed in changing culture or politics as usual.  Sorry, man.  Get some tact, stay grammatically classy, and work to restore the system with intelligence.  If you have the cognitive skills to do so, you’ll be much happier for it.