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		<title>By: T Mackenzie</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Mackenzie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are right, Shane, she was using it as an analogy for her own life.  (To good effect, I think.) And I also agree about the attempt to silence Christian voices in PUBLIC life. . .I certainly stand against that.

I&#039;m just a die-hard separation of Church and Stater. Was not intending to expand the discussion so far to the larger issue. . .but there is a lot of commentary on OTHER sites taking this as a statement about purported (and intentional) Godlessness rampant in our country. (I don&#039;t! I see a tremendous amount of faith everywhere!)

 But if you read the history of the coins this clearly was an aesthetic, not a political, decision.  And I thought some would be comforted by knowing the words will be reinstated, soon, on the face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are right, Shane, she was using it as an analogy for her own life.  (To good effect, I think.) And I also agree about the attempt to silence Christian voices in PUBLIC life. . .I certainly stand against that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just a die-hard separation of Church and Stater. Was not intending to expand the discussion so far to the larger issue. . .but there is a lot of commentary on OTHER sites taking this as a statement about purported (and intentional) Godlessness rampant in our country. (I don&#8217;t! I see a tremendous amount of faith everywhere!)</p>
<p> But if you read the history of the coins this clearly was an aesthetic, not a political, decision.  And I thought some would be comforted by knowing the words will be reinstated, soon, on the face.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Vander Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Vander Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-10669&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Wickle&lt;/a&gt;, I agree we need to live by &quot;in God we trust.&quot;  I think all it was meant to be in the speech was an illustration.  She said she had done the same with her prolife views until Trig came along.

I wasn&#039;t expecting this thread of conversation on the post, LOL.  I completely see your point about blurring the lines.  I just get troubled by those on the left who want to scrub any mention of God and faith from public life.  Not just on coins, but from the mouths of those who follow Christ as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-10669" rel="nofollow">@Wickle</a>, I agree we need to live by &#8220;in God we trust.&#8221;  I think all it was meant to be in the speech was an illustration.  She said she had done the same with her prolife views until Trig came along.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t expecting this thread of conversation on the post, LOL.  I completely see your point about blurring the lines.  I just get troubled by those on the left who want to scrub any mention of God and faith from public life.  Not just on coins, but from the mouths of those who follow Christ as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Vander Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Vander Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-10668&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@T Mackenzie&lt;/a&gt;, I obviously wasn&#039;t there, but I don&#039;t think she was making a statement about where it should be on the coin or if it should be at all.  It was an illustration about what she had done with her own prolife views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-10668" rel="nofollow">@T Mackenzie</a>, I obviously wasn&#8217;t there, but I don&#8217;t think she was making a statement about where it should be on the coin or if it should be at all.  It was an illustration about what she had done with her own prolife views.</p>
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		<title>By: Wickle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wickle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-10668&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@T Mackenzie&lt;/a&gt;, I knew there had to be more of us!

For my own part, I&#039;d like to remove all use of Christian language that isn&#039;t actually religious in nature. How many people are compelled to take God&#039;s Name in vain while they recite the Pledge of Allegiance? It&#039;s absolutely absurd.

Frankly, as a nation, we don&#039;t live by &quot;In God We Trust,&quot; do we? We trust in B-1 bombers, the Marine Corps, the full faith and credit of the US government, the free market, Big Government, or lots of other things ... but not God. Printing it on coins doesn&#039;t make it so.

I&#039;m deeply troubled by the blurring of lines between real, believing Christianity and the vague civic religion of these idols ... err, ... national icons. (And, by the way, we not only have T. Roosevelt with us on that one, we have John Adams. He once asked George Washington to use less religious language so that his political opponents would not have cause to reject God as well as rejecting him ... something to consider, no?)
.-= Wickle´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://1truebeliever.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/information-v-abortion/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Information v. Abortion&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-10668" rel="nofollow">@T Mackenzie</a>, I knew there had to be more of us!</p>
<p>For my own part, I&#8217;d like to remove all use of Christian language that isn&#8217;t actually religious in nature. How many people are compelled to take God&#8217;s Name in vain while they recite the Pledge of Allegiance? It&#8217;s absolutely absurd.</p>
<p>Frankly, as a nation, we don&#8217;t live by &#8220;In God We Trust,&#8221; do we? We trust in B-1 bombers, the Marine Corps, the full faith and credit of the US government, the free market, Big Government, or lots of other things &#8230; but not God. Printing it on coins doesn&#8217;t make it so.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m deeply troubled by the blurring of lines between real, believing Christianity and the vague civic religion of these idols &#8230; err, &#8230; national icons. (And, by the way, we not only have T. Roosevelt with us on that one, we have John Adams. He once asked George Washington to use less religious language so that his political opponents would not have cause to reject God as well as rejecting him &#8230; something to consider, no?)<br />
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		<title>By: T Mackenzie</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much commentary on this issue leaves out the fact that this change was instituted during the Bush administration. An additional act addressing this design change took place in 2008, restoring In God We Trust back onto the surface, not the edge, of this coin.

It still remains the law of the land that this phrase must be placed somewhere on ALL coins and paper currency.  That has not changed. 

I&#039;m a contrarian on this issue, in any case.  I hold with Pres. Theodore Roosevelt&#039;s position that putting this phrase on coins and stamps is &#039;irreverent&#039; possibly &#039;sacreligious.&#039;I don&#039;t expect most to agree with me, but, as a Christian, I have always been uncomfortable with God&#039;s name on our coins- for religious, not political, reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much commentary on this issue leaves out the fact that this change was instituted during the Bush administration. An additional act addressing this design change took place in 2008, restoring In God We Trust back onto the surface, not the edge, of this coin.</p>
<p>It still remains the law of the land that this phrase must be placed somewhere on ALL coins and paper currency.  That has not changed. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a contrarian on this issue, in any case.  I hold with Pres. Theodore Roosevelt&#8217;s position that putting this phrase on coins and stamps is &#8216;irreverent&#8217; possibly &#8217;sacreligious.&#8217;I don&#8217;t expect most to agree with me, but, as a Christian, I have always been uncomfortable with God&#8217;s name on our coins- for religious, not political, reasons.</p>
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