Comments on: Roberts Outlines Way to Challenge Obama’s Nationalized Health Care Plan

By: Romney Meets Branstad | Caffeinated Thoughts

Romney Meets Branstad | Caffeinated Thoughts — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:57:22 +0000

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By: Argon

Argon — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 17:34:15 +0000

Aside: Note that the release suggested that the plan “to nationalize the health care industry” could happen “as soon as Sunday”. It’s pretty clear Gibbons is conflating effect of this current bill with “nationalization”. That’s absolutely not true.

Shane, I think Inigo Montoya says it best: “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”

Yes, we are talking about increasing Federal control (regulation) of some parts of health care. But that’s not the same thing as “nationalization”. Massachusetts has a state health plan that is similar in many ways to what is proposed in the national bill. The majority of residents remain covered by private insurance and the doctors they see are not government employees.

Similarly, having a public option is also not nationalization. Yes, many Democrats, Independents, and a large percentage of Americans do want a public option but let’s be real: The public option was one of the first items ejected during negotiations over this bill *among the democrats*.

By: Shane Vander Hart

Shane Vander Hart — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:36:36 +0000

@Argon, Are we not talking increased Federal control of health care? Also, have you not been listening when Democrats have said they would pass a public option later? No truth... this is just the first step.

By: Argon

Argon — Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:29:38 +0000

The current health bill “nationalizes” the health care industry? Truth or a hyperbolic rhetorical flourish?

Answer: The latter.