I blogged a little while ago about what Willow Creek Community Church learned about their failure to help foster a deeper intimacy with Jesus Christ among those who attend.  There is a similar conversation going on over at Life in Student Ministries when Tim Schmoyer discovered that some of his students didn’t want to come to his Sunday school class and instead were doing a study of their own.  Pretty interesting.

He mentioned a new ministry model being shared by Dare 2 Share called Deep and Wide.  I haven’t had the chance to really look it over yet, but I will.  From first glance it looks pretty good.  My question is this though – do we need another model or do we need a different mind set?

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  1. “My question is this though – do we need another model or do we need a different mind set?” (Shane)

    I think churches need to define what discipleship means and how it was used in the Jewish context. I notice the disciples call Jesus ‘rabbi’ (teacher) – and they then are taught and shown what Jesus was all about (both things existed together). But what is also the focus of discipleship – to win more converts – ot to build the best value systems that speak to the communities we come from?

  2. “My question is this though – do we need another model or do we need a different mind set?” (Shane)

    I think churches need to define what discipleship means and how it was used in the Jewish context. I notice the disciples call Jesus ‘rabbi’ (teacher) – and they then are taught and shown what Jesus was all about (both things existed together). But what is also the focus of discipleship – to win more converts – ot to build the best value systems that speak to the communities we come from?

  3. “My question is this though – do we need another model or do we need a different mind set?” (Shane)

    I think churches need to define what discipleship means and how it was used in the Jewish context. I notice the disciples call Jesus ‘rabbi’ (teacher) – and they then are taught and shown what Jesus was all about (both things existed together). But what is also the focus of discipleship – to win more converts – ot to build the best value systems that speak to the communities we come from?

  4. For me discipleship is part of an overall goal of disciplemaking of which evangelism (sharing our faith with those who don’t know Jesus) is also a part.

    Jesus tells us we are to make disciples – Matthew 28:19-20, Acts 1:8, etc.

    To be a disciple simply means to be a follower. Discipleship is a process of (disciplining ourselves – same root word) becoming more like our Leader who in this case is Jesus Christ.

  5. For me discipleship is part of an overall goal of disciplemaking of which evangelism (sharing our faith with those who don’t know Jesus) is also a part.

    Jesus tells us we are to make disciples – Matthew 28:19-20, Acts 1:8, etc.

    To be a disciple simply means to be a follower. Discipleship is a process of (disciplining ourselves – same root word) becoming more like our Leader who in this case is Jesus Christ.

  6. For me discipleship is part of an overall goal of disciplemaking of which evangelism (sharing our faith with those who don’t know Jesus) is also a part.

    Jesus tells us we are to make disciples – Matthew 28:19-20, Acts 1:8, etc.

    To be a disciple simply means to be a follower. Discipleship is a process of (disciplining ourselves – same root word) becoming more like our Leader who in this case is Jesus Christ.

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