Conservatives outnumber liberals in nearly every state according to a Gallup Poll released on August 14th..

Everywhere except Washington, D.C. (no surprise there).

The bottom line according to Gallup:

Despite the Democratic Party’s political strength — seen in its majority representation in Congress and in state houses across the country — more Americans consider themselves conservative than liberal. While Gallup polling has found this to be true at the national level over many years, and spanning recent Republican as well as Democratic presidential administrations, the present analysis confirms that the pattern also largely holds at the state level. Conservatives outnumber liberals by statistically significant margins in 47 of the 50 states, with the two groups statistically tied in Hawaii, Vermont, and Massachusetts.

This again is confirmation of the primary reason why Republicans lost in 2006 & 2008 – they left their principles of fiscal discipline and small government.  We saw a shift in moderates.  There is great opportunity here for the GOP, with the health care debate and increasing government spending those moderates could end up switching back.

Those who hold the “drop the prolife agenda” meme in my party needs to remember that the United States has a prolife majority.  So dropping that from the platform won’t be a winner either.  Regaining the fiscal conservative street cred will.

So who’s really the fringe group?

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  1. I know people who say they are conservatives, believe in conservative principles, and still vote Democrat. I think this is done because daddy was a Democrat. We’ve always been Democrats. When they get to the voting booth, they can’t bring themselves to vote according to their principles because it goes too hard against the grain. The sad reality is that they say they are conservatives but are not. If they were, our country wouldn’t be on the precipice of ruination because of a government dominated by the left.

    In other words, I have a very hard time believing this report is reflecting genuine conservatism. Color me skeptical.

    1. @Greg Smith, I can understand your position. Conservative doesn’t necessarily mean GOP. I can’t say that’s been my experience. I’ve got friends that have some conservative positions, have voted Democrat (not always), but wouldn’t consider themselves conservative – they are the moderates that seem to shift a lot.

  2. Who’s on the fringe? It’s still you, Shane!

    I’m not sure if you’re intentionally being deceptive with these numbers or not, but you need to be aware of the tendency to read into statistics what you want to see.

    Maybe more Americans identify themselves as “conservative” over “liberal,” but what does self-identification have to do with anything? The “conservative” label means something vastly different in Pennsylvania than it does in Iowa. The article you get you infographic from says:

    “When considered with party identification, these ideology findings highlight the role that political moderates currently play in joining with liberals to give the Democratic Party its numerical advantage.”

    So more Americans consider themselves moderate than anything else, and these people are voting Democratic, because the Republican party is playing to the fringe. They may not identify self-identify as liberal, but the spectrum of political beliefs in this country is not as polar as you seem to want it to be.

    What’s more, I can’t even count the number of fallacies in that Knights of Columbus sponsored push-poll you cite to show that the “majority of Americans are prolife.” Consider that they only surveyed 1,223 people. Consider that they lump together “60% of Americans would limit abortion to cases of rape, incest or to save the life of a mother – or would not allow it at all.” That’s hardly a single category. You can take it the other way and say a majority of Americans are not anti-abortion, if you lump the 40% who are pro-choice with the percentage who would allow it in limited circumstances, as opposed to the slim minority who want an absolute prohibition.

    What’s the point of all this? Are you so unsure about your principles that you can’t accept being on the fringe? I’m sorry to say, most Americans don’t share your radical anti-progress beliefs.
    .-= Strabo´s last blog ..The Myrmillo =-.

    1. @Strabo, Do you have a burr under your saddle or something? I mean typically you are pretty cordial, but you are insinuating that I am a liar. What happened to civility?

      No, the numbers are what they are. I shared what Gallup shared. The numbers don’t show that moderates are the majority, but rather that moderates shift – which I also mention. I recognize this, I said that they shifted to the parties. But unless you haven’t seen recent polling data on health care and fiscal matters you’d see that the majority isn’t hopping on the bandwagon. The GOP screwed up in 2006 and 2008. In 2008, the Presidency was essentially Obama’s to lose after Bush leaving office with such a dismal approval rating.

      Again you assume that people left the party because it was playing to the fringe – not the case. Spending was the issue, stewardship of the economy, and the promise of “change” is what drove them away. Not because the GOP was too prolife, I don’t know where you are getting that from.

      By the way, I linked to the Gallup poll as well, I meant to, but hit publish too fast. The Marist post came after that. If nothing else you’ll have to admit that the majority doesn’t want to see an expansion in abortion.

      And no I’m not unsure of my principles. I’ve always contended that the U.S. is center-right. So sure I’m “radical” all right and anti-progress (if you consider progress seeing our country go to pot). If calling that makes you feel better about your position, go right ahead.

  3. “Despite the Democratic Party’s political strength — seen in its majority representation in Congress and in state houses across the country — more Americans consider themselves conservative than liberal.”

    This statement is all I needed to stop reading the rest. There are plenty of conservative deomocrats, plenty of liberal republicans. And as afore mentioned conservative defined as…?? Liberal defined as…?? Are we talking abortion and gay marriage, or fiscal policy and war in Iraq?

    These are very grey areas and I vascillate widly based on the issue at hand, as do so many other americans.

    1. @Carl Holmes, You are right, conservative and liberal need to be defined (unfortunately based on who is doing the poll that could skew things).

      I think this does dovetail with polls recently done on health care reform and government spending… so perhaps this is reflecting fiscal policy more.

      The Gallup poll on abortion though is pretty interesting linked with this – so it isn’t entirely based on fiscal policy.

      I think though that this does illustrate, along with the nationwide polls Gallup has done that we are still a center-right nation.

      How that will pan out in 2010 and 2012… I think the issues to watch (as of right now) health care & government spending.

      But who knows, I recognize this is one poll and is purely speculation.

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