I can’t condone Representative Joe Wilson (R-SC) yelling out “you lie,” when President Obama was saying that the health care plan would not pay for illegal immigration. It was inappropriate. It was also disrespectful to the President. It violated Congressional decorum.
Even though President Obama was misleading the American people on this issue (one of several issues) Congressman Wilson should not have yelled it out. Many of us were likely thinking it, I know I was, but a Joint Session of Congress isn’t a town hall meeting. You shouldn’t even yell that at the President then.
He has apologized, as he should have. Obama accepted. So let’s drop it. He knew he was wrong and it wasn’t conduct appropriate for a Member of Congress. There are times when we should “call out” politicians on falsehoods, but that wasn’t the appropriate time.
But Democrats can’t let it go. Now Senator Arlen Specter (D-PA) is calling for a censure. House Democrats want him apologize on the House floor formally or they’ll censure him. Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) agrees with the plan after not agreeing with it. MSNBC David Shuster calls Wilson a racist.
Hey Democrats and liberal talking heads remember what Senator Harry Reid said about President George W. Bush? I know short term memory loss. The only difference was location.
I’m still waiting for President Obama to apologize to calling Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Thomas Sowell, Glenn Beck, Family Research Council, and countless others liars. So much for civility. I guess it is acceptable for the President to do the exact same thing in a speech. I won’t hold my breath waiting for that apology.
Update: Breaking news… Congressman Wilson took caffeine pills… back in 2007. Well that explains it then. Duane Lester points out that they are legal, unlike the coke and dope that President Obama took in his youth. Not to mention that the late Senator Ted Kennedy was a fall down drunk at certain points in his career. But by all means, go after Congressman Wilson for the caffeine pills.
I’ll go ahead and confess this before it becomes a scandal later on. I too took NoDoz pills as a freshman in college, because I was having a hard time staying awake in my early classes. I’m so ashamed… (sob). Oh, and I also consume extra-ordinary amounts of coffee.
There, I’m glad I got that off my chest. I feel so much better.
Update II: A brief history of Obamacare for illegal aliens.
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>> unlike the coke and dope that President Obama used…
Yikes, that’s pretty mean. You must be a very angry person and not very nice. You should go and volunteer at a hospital or church and be nice to people. Being nice is good and makes people be nice back with you.
Mean people are bad.
@Rusty, I’ll go repent. I did pet my dog today, does that help?
Hi Shane,
I must say that I agree with you almost 100% of the time but this time I must respectfully disagree that it wasn’t the right time. I think it was the PERFECT time! The American people needed to hear that someone had the intestinal fortitude to call a spade a spade. This political correctness crap is the worst thing to ever befall America. It stands in the way of people saying and doing what needs to be said and done in our country. Obama is a liar; Mr. Wilson called him on it. Let me share with you a quote from Bill Wilson. He said, “Our Constitution mandates freedom of speech and religion. It does so that Christians can stand for God’s righteousness and be free to do so in the face of authority. So when Christians say it was wrong for Congressman Joe Wilson to disrespect the office of the President by calling him a liar in the House chamber, I say it is far worse for Christians to tolerate collective disregard for the word of God by elected leaders, especially the president. To disparage a man for telling the truth is far worse than exposing the unrighteous for what they are. Ephesians 5:11 says, “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather rebuke them.” Jesus is the example with the Pharisees.”
Obama is a blatant liar. That’s not disrespect; that’s telling the truth and saying so where there is ample evidence to prove it. I’m so sick of our leaders tip-toeing around afraid to be “politically incorrect.” Rubbish. Jesus wasn’t politically correct and His conversations with the Pharisees usually have me in stitches because I try to process what He says in modern vernacular and it’s NOT pretty. They were broods of vipers and many other horrible things that Jesus compared them to. They were corrupt to the core, as many of our leaders are, and for a Christian (or even a non-Christian with scruples) to stand by and let that kind of crap go unchecked and unchallenged, well then we better not complain about the current state of affairs because it’s exactly what we deserve for not speaking up. If that wasn’t the right time, when is?
Sadly enough, I think that the only reason Obama got elected is because he became the “voice of change” and the “face of change” because most people were sick of Dubya. Obama had NO prior governing experience, has no idea about foreign policy, hasn’t learned the principle that spending is not how you get out of debt, and ram-rodding legislation without expecting legislators to read the actual bills is NOT how the country should be run. I could go on and on about his short-comings but the American sheeple have spoken and think that the man who occupies the Oval Office (OOO) is the “right” man for the job. I think he’s the WRONG man for the job but I also believe in the sovereignty of God and know that ALL world leaders are appointed by God for His glory, including Barrack Hussein Obamadinejad, and HE will be glorified as BHO is just another nickel in the pocket of God whom He will spend as He sees fit.
God bless and thanks so much for Caffeinated Thoughts!! My fiance’ and I are sitting here having our morning coffee together as we read it.
Humbly in His service,
Mike
@Mike, Mike glad to have you stop by and comment.
Well we can’t agree with each other 100% of the time, so I’ll settle for 99.9% 😉
A couple things I’m thinking of when I said that, and it wasn’t political correctness.
1. Civility – we need it in our political discourse. There’s a time and a place and a way to express disagreement.
2. Ephesians 4:15 – “Speak truth in love.” We need to speak truth, but shouting out “you lie” perhaps isn’t the best way to do that.
Now I’m not excusing hypocrisy as that really was the thrust of my post. I also admit that I was thinking the same thing that Congressman Wilson yelled. I just think the whole thing should be dropped.
I’ve seen it pointed out in several different places that Bush was booed at his ’05 state of the union address. (One of the few times he spoke before a joint session– usually, those are reserved for SotU and war.)
Where HAVE these folks been for the last eight years?
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@Foxfier, Exactly, not to mention the treatment he received at Obama’s inauguration. Whether you like President Bush or not you have to at least recognize that he always treated those who disagreed with him with respect.
I also can not recall him ever giving such a partisan speech from the position of President (not counting campaign speeches).
I’m torn. I wish he’d said, “That’s a lie.”
But Obama had just finished calling you and me liars….
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@ChrisB, I think we’ll be waiting a long time before President Obama apologizes.