After an extended absence on the podcast, our host Shane Vander Hart is back for our 58th episode! Shane has a conversation with Sarah Abdouch who is the Iowa State Director for the Convention of States Project

Before that conversation, Shane talks about some new news related to the Mueller investigation and what it could mean for President Trump.

He then discusses an evangelical Air Force general who was targeted by an atheist group that sent a complaint to Secretary of Defense James Mattis because the general ran an online Christian ministry for the last five years.

Then Sarah explains to Shane why the Convention of the States Project wants an Article V Convention, what it does, and she addresses some of the objections they have received about it.

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