On this episode of the Caffeinated Thoughts Podcast, Shane Vander Hart talks with Jonathan Williams, the chief economist and vice president of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) about the 2019 Rich States Poor States Report he co-authors.

Where did Iowa land? They discuss. 

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