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On this episode of the Caffeinated Thoughts Podcast, Shane Vander Hart first gives South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem props about her approach to COVID-19 and how she’s balancing respecting inalienable rights with responding to a public health crisis.

Then speaks with Mark Hancock, the CEO of Trail Life USA, about the National Backyard Campout on Friday, April 17, 2020. 

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