Part of a well-rounded education would be studying government, social sciences, economics, etc.  Part of the curriculum would be looking at Presidents past, and the current administration.  I understand that, and I think most reasonable people understand that.  My primary concern when the President spoke to students directly was the accompanying curriculum.

I didn’t think that President Obama was going to say anything outrageous, but I wasn’t too sure where some teachers would take this.  With many current and future educators coming out of liberal colleges, and are card carrying members of the National Education Association it doesn’t take much of a leap to be concerned about what may take place in the classroom.

If I were teaching government in high school I would have likely had kids watch President Obama’s healthcare speech.  It would be a great opportunity to discuss policy and the role of government, and to get kids exercising critical thinking skills.  I wouldn’t, however, give them a pop quiz like this:

Now initially giving the teacher the benefit of the doubt I thought that perhaps these questions were an attempt to make sure kids were paying attention because it wanted kids to answer based on what President Obama said.  Question #10 seems to be the one question where there could actually be some discussion, and perhaps debate.

Not so.  According to Stacy Mott, Founder and President of Smart Girl Politics who had a member share about an experience that her daughter had in school:

Her daughter, a senior in high school, had come home upset because, although the speech was not shown in her school, her anatomy teacher had made the class watch the President’s health care speech. After the video was shown, the students were given a short quiz about the speech. The questions asked gave the assumption that the answers provided in the President’s speech were fact and not opinion. The students were given no opportunity to discuss opposing views or have a debate on the topic. In fact, when one student stated that the President had lied, the student was told that kind of talk was unnecessary. Students in the class with opposing views were forced to remain silent or whisper amongst themselves.

That isn’t education folks, it’s indoctrination.  Kids deserve better than this.

Update: Hot Air and National Review have another Obama praise video up.  This is from an elementary school in New Jersey.  If anybody finds any context behind this video (like the school, was it after school?, etc.) drop me a line.

Why do they think this is ok to do? How would they feel if conservatives did this when President Bush was in office?  I mean seriously!

HT: Kate

2nd Update: Angela emailed me said that it is B. Bernice Young Elementary School in Burlington, NJ.  Fox News is reporting this as well.  Apparently this was recorded in June.  Burlington Township School District officials are not commenting, which in my mind is confirmation – if it didn’t happen there, you’d think they’d deny it right away.  Fox News also has the lyrics if you couldn’t quite make all of them out from the video.

Song 1:
Mm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

He said that all must lend a hand
To make this country strong again
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

He said we must be fair today
Equal work means equal pay
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

He said that we must take a stand
To make sure everyone gets a chance
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

He said red, yellow, black or white
All are equal in his sight
Mmm, mmm, mm!
Barack Hussein Obama

Yes!
Mmm, mmm, mm
Barack Hussein Obama

Song 2:
Hello, Mr. President we honor you today!
For all your great accomplishments, we all doth say "hooray!"

Hooray, Mr. President! You’re number one!
The first black American to lead this great nation!

Hooray, Mr. President we honor your great plans
To make this country’s economy number one again!

Hooray Mr. President, we’re really proud of you!
And we stand for all Americans under the great Red, White, and Blue!

So continue —- Mr. President we know you’ll do the trick
So here’s a hearty hip-hooray —-

Hip, hip hooray!
Hip, hip hooray!
Hip, hip hooray!

7 comments
  1. Being blunt …

    My father — a retired Air Force lt. colonel, Vietnam Vet, Christian, Republican, member of the NH-NEA, and 8th grade history teacher at a public middle school — has remarked to me “Anyone who thinks that public schools are just about indoctrination probably hasn’t set foot in one since he dropped out.”

    He doesn’t mince words a lot …

    There are anecdotes that are pulled out all the time to show the contrary, but in truth they are noteworthy precisely because they are isolated. And that’s exactly what this is … assuming that the story from Smart Girl Politics is true as stated, it’s an anecdote. Anecdotes don’t prove anything.

    One of the problems in public education is that a lot of Christians, conservatives, etc. have checked out. Instead of becoming involved in PTA or such, they’ve simply headed elsewhere. Therefore, of course, the people running the schools tend to be of the left-leaning persuasion.

    Told a different way: My church, several years ago, made a commitment to do the opposite. By getting involved in the schools, they won several changes that mattered to Christian parents — perhaps most noticeably, the high school didn’t have any athletic events on Sundays. They did this by being present, bringing issues to the PTA and School Board, voting, etc..

    If you want to homeschool — good for you. That’s a wonderful decision. I might do so with my younger children, myself. But it is simply not true that anything like a majority of the public school experience is brainwashing, indoctrination, or anything of the kind.

    To wrap up a rather-long comment … I know several devout Christians (including my father) who are public school teachers. I’ve had this conversation with a few of them, and they’re aware of what could be considered an abuse. They’re also aware of what has been misrepresented as an abuse by a student. They don’t appreciate being maligned by people who, generally, have done no actual work to gather facts for their complaints.

    1. @Wickle, Did I say they are just about indoctrination? No. I’ve actually been involved in public schools even while home schooling, as a youth pastor, in my current role, and even as a substitute teacher. I’ve also been a private school educator. What I’m pointing out are problems that shouldn’t be tolerated, yet strangely are in some school districts.

      I too know many Christians who work in public schools and they’ll point to the good, the bad and the ugly.

      I also encourage involvement by parents who choose to have their kids enrolled in public school. If they aren’t involved they are abdicating their role as parents. In some school districts Wickle that is becoming harder and harder to do. I also know there are kids who will complain at the drop of a hat about anything. There are also legitimate problems. Which is why parents should know when these things occur and be involved to step in and bring change.

      Your dad is old school and I’m sure respects the authority of parents (not to say he hasn’t had problems as some parents can be a pain in the butt which I learned from my experience). That isn’t necessarily the case with younger teachers. In some of their minds school authority trumps parental authority which is just completely wrong.

      Then, I could get started on textbooks used which are dumbed down or are revisionist, but that would be an entirely different topic.

      This is an anecdote sure, but who many do you need to see before you notice a pattern? Not every public school does this, but there are far too many that allow individual teachers to get away with it.

      1. @Shane Vander Hart, Frankly, even from this anecdote, I’m not sure that the school did anything wrong.

        I have nothing to present the teacher’s side of the story, for example … I have a blog comment from the parent of a teenager. That would put it beneath hearsay.

        Moreover … the student was called down, by her own story, for saying that the President lied. In those words? Without support? Classroom discussion of controversies should be done civilly. Although name-calling and attacks are popular on the radio, it isn’t appropriate for the classroom.

        The teacher might well have been right to do so. There are WAAAY too many things that I would have to know before I’m ready to say that this is wrong.

        Often, there is more than one side to a story, and if people take the time to look at it instead of assuming that the public school is always bad, things take a very different light.

        Are there problems? Of course there are. But let’s not overreact.

      2. @Wickle, How is pointing out problems over-reacting? I’m not calling for schools to be defunded or that every parent pull their kids form public schools.

        How will problems ever be addressed if they aren’t pointed out. I’ll concede to you that we are only hearing one side of the story – though I would never hand a pop quiz like that out.

  2. Regarding the School video. This teacher took inspiration from the “professionaly made” video of children singing the praises of Obama during the election that wasn’t produced at a school.

    I am one of those people who would literally take a bullet(s) for Gov. emerita Palin. But in my wildest dreams would I want this kind of admiration of Palin to be sung and praised by school children, or children in a “professional campain song video” Yes we can,can can” NO WAY NO HOW!!!!

    1. @M. Hovda, It isn’t good to elevate anyone like this regardless of party. It’s just creepy.

      I’ll admit that I’ve been weirded out by some Palin-fan made videos as well, but at least they didn’t involve kids.

      One huge difference though – when you listen to Obama speak how much does he talk about himself? Compare that to Sarah Palin – night and day difference.

  3. You know, after I put all this effort into defending public schools, I hear this one (passed on to me by my father). One of the 8th grade English teachers assigned this writing prompt the other day:

    If you knock your brother down, would you also pee in his mouth?

    Ummmm …

    For one thing, it’s just plain inappropriate conversation topic. Second, it’s a stupid prompt! The answer could simply be “No.” Closed-ended questions don’t work as prompts.

    I feel very betrayed. Just imagine how the parents whose kids were in that class feel! (My 8th grader is in the other English class.)
    .-= Wickle´s last blog ..Untouchable? =-.

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