Talk show host Glenn Beck regularly provides conservatives with a wealth of useful information. He can be witty, self-deprecating, and endearing on the radio while dead serious and engaging on TV. Sometimes you laugh until you cry.   Sometimes you just cry.  There is a great deal to commend in his efforts.   Dr. Beck (who received an honorary doctorate from the late Jerry Falwell’s Liberty University), diagnoses the Progressive Movement as the disease killing our land, then courageously goes after people in high places, especially the latest menu of Marxist fruits, flakes, and nuts the Barack Obama administration serves us up for breakfast every morning.  According to Deseret News, “Beck also doesn’t shy away from religious topics, spending much of another show this week talking about salvation through Jesus Christ.”

Speaking of religion, The Number Three Talker in the Land recently traveled around the country holding “American Revival” meetings in preparation for a huge “Restore Honor” rally in Washington, DC next month, to be held at the foot of the Lincoln Memorial. Tens of thousands will probably attend the August 28th and 29th events, perhaps more.  Because showman Beck knows how to generate buzz by only dishing out rally information in small doses, details are sketchy. We do know former Vice-Presidential candidate Sarah Palin is an integral part of the event though Beck denies the emphasis will be on politics.  It is almost a certainty there will be a heavy dose of Patriotism and religion. The rallies are set to promote the ethics of Faith, Hope, and Charity, show support for the military, and emphasize putting God back at the forefront of our lives.   

Though revival is sorely needed in our land, it is fair to ask what kind of revival Beck would make happen.  He recently said “We need another Whitefield”.  He was referring to Great Awakening preacher George Whitefield.  Though Beck regularly lays it on thick with affection for Whitefield, he grossly misunderstands or greatly misrepresents Whitefield’s preaching by suggesting the thrust of his ministry was “freedom” and “individualism”.  It would be good for Beck’s soul to read some of Whitefield’s sermons

George Whitefield was perhaps the most consistently orthodox gospel preacher the world has seen since the days of the apostles.   He preached faith in the one Triune God, Jehovah, Who alone is eternal. Beck, on the other hand, frequently says things like “I don’t care what God it is that you worship or what church you go to.” and calls upon Christians to “put all differences aside on everything”.  But the devil’s lie from the beginning was “ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil”.   There is only one God.  And we don’t get to pick him. 

Whitefield preached about the eternity of hell.  On the contrary, at an “American Revival” rally in Salt Lake City, Beck said “hell is not an eternal lake of fire” and proceeded to mock God and His Judgment against sinners, calling Him “a giant Octopus”. Thomas Jefferson likewise considered the Trinity a kind of three-headed mythological creature.  He promoted instead the god of reason, and a “Unitarian Faith” he predicted would eventually take over the country.  Ironically, Jefferson’s god is the seedbed of progressivism.  If God’s revelation of Scripture is seen as progressive and unending, it should be no small surprise descendents of Jefferson’s religious philosophy would end up ignoring the Constitution. 

Whitefield did not preach morality would lead to freedom.  On the contrary, he preached: 

“People have been so long misled, they have been taught that they must do so and so, and though they were under a covenant of works, and then for DOING this, they should be saved. Whereas, on the contrary, people should be taught, That the Lord Jesus was the second Adam, with whom the Father entered into covenant for fallen man; That they can now do nothing of or for themselves, and should therefore come to God, beseeching him to give them faith, by which they shall be enabled to lay hold on the righteousness of Christ; and that faith they will then show forth by their works, out of love and gratitude to the ever blessed Jesus, their most glorious Redeemer, for what he has done for their souls.”

 
Glenn Beck rightly desires to see a respect for God restored to our country.   Well and good.  But which god?  An unknown or generic god cannot save us or revive our nation.   The only God who can save us is the One Who has revealed Himself in Scripture.  “Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods? who is like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful in praises, doing wonders?”   God was also clear in His Ten Words:   No other gods!   A simple exploration of the word “gods” in the Bible will prove this true. 

Christians should avoid the pluralist god and Beck’s rally like the plague. “God said to Moses “against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the LORD” (Jehovah).   We should not put our patriotism and love of country over our service to the True and Living God, and his only Son, Jesus. 

The risk for Christians in going to the “revival” in DC is not that they will be converted to Beck’s Mormon faith.  It is that they will believe his pluralistic message: it doesn’t really matter which God you serve as long as he is politically not a progressive.  Jerry Falwell, Jr. was recently a guest on Glenn’s TV show.  He said this: “We can argue about theology later after we save the country.”   But Falwell is wrong.  We cannot save the country if our theology is wrong.  Revival comes when we who were dead in our sins are made alive.  When people like Glenn Beck and I believe the gospel Whitefield preached.  Beck has asked Christians to pray for him.  We do pray that this will be the loving message Falwell and historian David Barton give to Glenn Beck when they are on his program, rather than sit silently by while he mocks our God.

26 comments
  1. I was there at the American Revival in SLC. Beck did not mock God in any way, shape or form. He believes, as I do, that in America you can worship however you want, but we need to come together on principles. At the end of the program, David Barton led the audience in prayer. Before the prayer, Beck said that Barton, who is an Evangelical, may not agree with him on theological matters, but they do agree on the restoration of the Constitution. That is the point of the 8/28 event. Distorting this event does not help your cause.

    1. When Glenn suggested that belief in eternal hell was equivalent to believing in a God who is scary like an 80-legged octopus, that is mocking God. Restoring the constitution is one thing. It is a political statement. Beck said this is not about politics. If it is about God, it is about religion. The word “revival” is being used in a religious way. He invokes George Whitefield. Have you read any George Whitefield sermons?

      1. The octopus comment was a joke, and everyone knew it was a joke. I have not read all of Whitefield’s sermons, but I believe Beck talks about him to show that he inspired the Founding Fathers and to show that they were not all deists, like progressive historians have claimed. If this country goes down the tubes, no one will have freedom of religion, not Evangelicals, not Mormons, not anyone. We have to stop this circular firing squad and focus on restoring the Constitution.

      2. CG,

        Thanks for joining with your comments. It is clear Mr. Beck does not believe in hell as did George Whitefield. No, it was not a joke, Mockery sounds like joking by definition. I agree that if the country goes down the tubes no one will have freedom to practice religion without persecution. But I disagree that what Glenn Beck is proposing will stop the slide into the abyss for one moment. Revival will not come as the work of man’s hands.

        As to the circular firing squad: If you want to stay out of the line of fire, don’t line up behind the target.

    1. C. S. Lewis didn’t believe hell was an eternal lake of fire either. It isn’t the word ‘eternal’ which Beck expressed doubt over. It’s the literal ‘lake of fire’ thing. Hell is, by definition, where God IS NOT. That, by definition, is dreadful, unhappy, miserable, hopeless. It may or may not be actual fire that actually burns. I”m inclined to believe these are spiritual metaphors, as was Lewis. George Whitfield used the powerful language of ‘eternal fire’, but this of itself does not decide the question of whether or not he thought it to be metaphorical or literal.

      Glenn Beck is a seriously Godly man. Your efforts to carefully misdefine his comments and separate Christians from each other along the lines you create are themselves unworthy and it is you who has the God problem right now.

      1. If Beck is Mormon, as others have posted, he does not believe hell (physical or metaphorical) is eternal.

        As one LDS site says: “We don’t believe in the traditional view of “hell” as a place of never ending torment for those who don’t accept Jesus in this world. Hell is a temporary state of terrible anguish and pain for the wicked, but with very few exceptions, everyone will eventually accept Jesus Christ and receive some degree of glory”

        But Jesus said, “But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.”

        Revelation 14:11 “And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.”

        I don’t know what you mean “Glenn Beck is a seriously Godly man”. I have not questioned his morality or his sincerity. I have questioned his belief in Pluralism (it does not matter what God you serve). It may not matter to Beck, it matters to God:

        Judges 10:6 And the children of Israel did evil again in the sight of the LORD, and served Baalim, and Ashtaroth, and the gods of Syria, and the gods of Zidon, and the gods of Moab, and the gods of the children of Ammon, and the gods of the Philistines, and forsook the LORD, and served not him.

        I am not misdefining what Beck said. He was clear. A god who sends people to a lake of fire is scary (like an 80-headed octopus). The point is not whether it is literal or metaphorical. Lewis would no doubt say that the torment is much worse (not less so). To mock at God’s judgment is scary. Beck is quite profane in his language on the air. He even put profanity in God’s mouth during the same speech. Is that Godly?

        I am not separating Christians from each other, I am warning Christians not to join with unbelievers under the banner of Beck’s false Revival. Is not what God is like an issue to separate over? One man thinks he is eternal, another that God Himself was created by another god?

  2. I am a born again christian who will be attending the 8/28 rally and you are a wolf wearing sheep’s clothing. You are so misled David!

    1. Jewell,

      Thank you for participating in my post. That is awful strong language to use against a brother in Christ. On what do you base that charge? In what way am I mislead?

      Are you saying that a Christian can believe that it does not matter what God is like?

    2. “Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.”
      -Jesus Christ (Matthew 5:11-12)

    3. Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, there Jewell… Who is a Wolf in Sheep Clothing? Beck is a Mormon, a Pseudo-Christian Millennial Cult started in the Mid-1800’s.

      Mormons lead themselves as well as others straight to the pits of hell. Think about the Israel, they were to be holy and set apart, especially in worship.

      As a Christian, someone who believes in the Penal-Substitutionary Atonement of Christ on the Cross, not being liberal in anyway shape or form, I can firmly say that you are misled.

      God says in His word, “Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?” – 2 Corinthians 6:14 (ESV) I will not and on christian principle cannot latch wagons together with Beck.

      You should watch and consider this:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAx1yvSZB70

      Please place your faith above country. I am a Christian first and foremost, then I am a Pennsylvanian second, and then there is a lot of things that I am before I am an American. This is how we were supposed to have our loyalties.

      Last thought…

      Glenn Beck is not a Constitutional Conservative. He thinks he is but he is not.

      Anyone who believes that Lincoln had the authority to invade with federal troops a peaceful States that declared themselves independent should be a British Loyalist and yearn to serve God and King.

      Lincoln was once asked if he would let the south leave the union peacefully. He retorted, “In no way, if they go who will pay for the Federal Government.”

      1. Your comments on “You can’t save the country if your theology is wrong” hit the mark. There is no hope for any person, institution or country if they look to salvation anywhere but Christ. Christ, who is the Word and Truth sheds light onto everything.

        My favorite passages from God’s Word is this:

        “But the path of the righteous is like the light of dawn, which shines brighter and brighter until full day. The way of the wicked is like deep darkness; they do not know over what they stumble.” – Proverbs 4:18-19 (ESV)

  3. I wish I could have been at the American Revival in Salt Lake City. As a Mormon, as is Beck, you need to understand our theology just a bit. Glenn can be over the top about God, but Iistening to Beck I believe that Glenn is a God fearing man. He is smart enough to know that he is dust in the wind compared to the might of God.

    Now to the hell part. Mormons believe that hell is not just a place but a state of spiritual death of the soul. So when one uses the “fire and brimstone” comment it is a symbolic state of the misery of the damned soul as it is about the place of hell the person will reside who is wicked and remains that way without repentence.

    Finally, Mormons do not believe in Original Sin. We believe that Adam’s fall was necessary to bring about the existence of mankind. Therefore Adam chose to take the forbidden fruit and be cast out of the Garden of Eden along with Eve making the same choice. Adam and Eve chose suffering for the glory of God than to remain in the Garden of Eden.

    We also do not believe that they were unmarried in the Garden of Eden. God placed them there as husband and wife. Why would He place them in a “shack up” situation. That is contrary to what the scriptures teach.

    When the serpent or devil tempted Eve, she was not an idiot. She weighed her options carefully and then made a rational decision, not a “blonde” one. Adam similarly knew God wanted him to remain with Eve and to bring about man. Therefore they both yielded to temptation and were cast out.

    Jesus Christ is the Savior of us all from Adam’s fall. It is through Him that we can have communion with God and be again with our Father in Heaven, the God of us all including Jesus Christ, His Son.

    Now as to the constitution. We need to stick together and not let differences get in the way of the goal. Save this nation from the likes of those who have power now. If we do nothing we get what we deserve. God helps those that help themselves does He not? Then spread the word. Evangelical, Mormon, Catholic, Buddhist, and Agnostic. We can debate religious doctrine in the proper context and time. Right now saving America takes precedence. So agree to disagree and save our God given land and inheritences, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    1. Thanks for your participation. Adam and Eve were cast out of the garden of Eden for their sin. Being punished for our own sins is not commendable. I believe your view of sin is twisted. Twice in your short post you imply that sinning (disobeying God) was the right thing to do because it supposedly brought about the existence of mankind, and that it was for the glory of god.

      But God said in I Peter 2:19, 20:

      “For this [is] thankworthy, if a man for
      conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.
      For what glory [is it,] if, when ye be buffeted for
      your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do
      well, and suffer [for it,] ye take it patiently, this [is]
      acceptable with God.”

      But sin brought only sin and misery to man and his offspring. Punishment for the unrepentant is eternal. They cannot repent once they are dead, it is too late. All they do is curse God forever.

      “God helps those that help themselves does He not?”

      No, he helps those who cannot help themselves. Man cannot bring about the work of God (Revival). Revival is a bringing to life that which is dead. God greatly used the preaching of Jonathan Edwards (Sinner in the Hands of an Angry God) and George Whitefield to bring about revival. Mormons reject the message of both of those men. Joseph Smith said they were apostate.

      What word is it exactly that I am supposed to spread?

      1. Mr Shedlock,
        Thank you for wanting to start a religious debate. I am not going to engage you because I am not going to contend on points that are doctrinal to our respective faiths. I tried to give you some understanding of my faith and some perspective of what people like myself, Mr. Beck, and many other Latter-Day Saints believe.

        The important thing here is to understand that we must focus on what brings us together. We can debate doctrine at the proper time and place. For me that place is not now. We have people in power that seek to take our freedoms and as others have pointed out our liberties, including religious. So I would hope that you take my explanation as a help to understand Mormonism, not engage in a debate against it.

        I will only say we have to agree to disagree on points of doctrine and I cannot take your bait to engage in religious debate when unity for America is what we need. Not Christian diatribe that just will fuel the divisions that are the problem with America and contribute to the demise state that we are in.

      2. It is interesting that you took the time to talk about Mormonism when that was not what the post was about. It was about Pluralism. Then, you sarcastically “thank” me. Then you give details about your beliefs and complain when those beliefs are challenged.

        Divisions are not the problem. Glenn Beck is fond of saying that Hope comes from Truth. But the notion that it does not matter what God you serve is not truth. It implies that God does not really exist except for in the mind of the believers. No, God, does exist. He is the One who sends people revival, but it will not come by ignoring the truth.

  4. As an American I have resonated with Glenn Beck’s call to wake up to the progressive forces working against our republic and slowly eroding our freedom and the liberty we enjoy. As a christian though, I am deeply troubled by the contraction in his “the truth shall set you free” and “I don’t care what god believe in” rhetoric. True, as I read in a previous thread “We have people in power that seek to take our freedoms and as others have pointed out our liberties”. But much more urgently, we have an enemy, “the devil, who prowls around like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour” who is delighted to side track us from preaching the gospel of Truth as Whitefield did and ‘agree to disagree’ with many who are lost in his (Satan’s) deception while their eternal destinies hang in the balance. You can’t join with Biblical Christians, and count yourself among their number, and also follow as a true prophet Joseph Smith who claimed that God revealed to him that ALL christian denonimations are an “abomination” in His sight. The claims of the Bible and the claims of Joseph Smith are diametrically opposed to one another and therefore cannot both be true. If we of many different faiths, doctrine, and theologies “stand together” under the banner of TRUTH, we lie, and Satan wins…to the detriment of those who are being deceived. It is much better for us to diligently and prayerfully seek the TRUE God – there is only one. I pray Glenn (and fellow Mormon David!) continues spending time in God’s Word, which is living and active, and there encounters in a personal way real TRUTH…Jesus Christ, the Way, the Truth, and the Life!

  5. Glenn Beck announced on radio today that he is going to start reading C.S. Lewis – awesome, TRUTH baby! Pray God gives him eyes to see…

  6. I agree that the question of religion is vastly more important than the question of politics. Furthermore, I believe that I have more in common with a fellow Christian who holds different political views than I do with a non-Christian who holds my political views.

    On the one hand, I don’t insist that folks agree with my religious views to join me politically. But, on the other hand, I will not set aside my religion for the sake of political unity. And I certainly do not intend to seek political improvement by embracing the notion that religion is irrelevant as long as we agree on the Constitution.

    Political revolution without a large measure of unity in religious truth (not just in religion, but in religious truth) is every bit as scary as the consequences of continued political decline. Perhaps more so.

    Great post, David.

    1. I followed your advice. Very enlightening. I found there are people out there who reject the plain teaching of God’s word that there is eternal punishment. They do all in their power to trick men into believing the opposite of what God teaches and the church has always believed.

      Thank you so much.

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