Trayvon Martin

Well, I figure it’s about time to weigh in on the travesty and mess that is happening in Florida with the killing of Trayvon Martin.  The whole thing has become blown up by an over zealous media pouring gasoline on the ever-burning flame of racial tension.  The biggest tragedy in this whole thing is that yet another young man is now dead, followed closely by the treatment of George Zimmerman in the media and population…but things are not always as they appear or as we are told.

New details are being released nearly every moment that are beginning to provide a much clearer picture of what happened back in February.  Also, details about Trayvon and George themselves are coming to light – details everyone SHOULD pay attention to before coming to their own conclusions.  Here are a few:

  • Though being touted as a “white-on-black” crime, Mr. Zimmerman is in fact Hispanic.  He also has several black family members.  Also, both he and his wife worked with minority students as tutors and mentors.
  • With folks like the Miami Heat, Spike Lee, Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson showing “support” for Trayvon before knowing all the facts also add fuel to the fire.  I put support is quotes because they aren’t really supporting Trayvon’s grieving family, but making judgments on what they think happened.
  • Not all NAACP and AA folks are in agreement on this.
  • Trayvon was in fact suspended 3 times within the past year for various offenses.  By no means does that mean he deserved to be shot, but it does provide more evidence to the issue at hand…meaning he wasn’t squeaky clean.
  • New witnesses and evidence are coming forward that are providing new evidence to the case.
George Zimmerman

I’ve listened the 911 audio and there is something amiss with the way and reason Zimmerman decided to follow and potentially chase Trayvon.  He should have let it go…just like the dispatcher told him to!  Trayvon may have very well thought this guy was chasing him to cause him harm…and thus “defended” himself by fighting with George.  Both of those things are not necessarily criminal.  But, the reason we should not rush to judgement in cases like these, is that it takes time for the system to work; and although it’s not a perfect system, it’s about the best in the entire world – so let’s have a little bit of trust within it.

14 comments
  1. Slight disagreement: the dispatcher did NOT tell him to let it go, he said he “didn’t have to do that.”  Exactly like 911 is supposed to do.  (Remember the uproar when that poor little teenage widow was on the phone for 911 and the operator couldn’t tell her “shoot the SOBs”?)

    The liability risks are insane.

    The “new witness” that actually saw the attack isn’t new, he was mentioned in the original reporting of the altercation. I’m not sure why the women who didn’t even see anything but ran out after a shot was fired are quoted so much, they apparently didn’t notice that the guy standing was bleeding and had been slammed to the ground.  I guess it’s because the original witness didn’t want his name spread around….

    No wonder the cops didn’t file charges.

  2. Wow. That was a even handed article. After visiting other conservative sites I found it to be a breath of fresh air. I will only mention that the victims character has nothing to do with this case. When a prostitute is raped the offender will be arrested and prosecuted. It is as it should be as this protects all of us. I was once a believer and avid Bible reader. It ordered and gave my life purpose. After reading, talking and viewing   conservative Christians I had to examine my own beliefs.  I found I cannot believe in the conservative God. I’ve lost faith and I’m in mourning. I can’t believe in a God of eternal punishment and vague reward.

    1. Thanks for commenting!  I agree his character doesn’t have anything to do with the issue at hand…I only mention it to indicate that the pictures we see of Trayvon posted all over the media are not an accurate representation of who what he looked like (seems like the pic being used are from 3-4 years aog). – thus exposing the media’s bias in this area.

      As to your other point, I would only say two things: 1) your relationship with God should be based on who He is and what he has done for you and your family – not on the poor witness of others; and 2) if the example of others has taken you away from God, it’s possible you were never with Him to begin with.  But, I’m curious as to what kind of “God” you DO believe in now?

  3. > So, the question is, does mr. Zimmerman appear to be black or white. Most people would guess white. Mr. Zimmerman’s critical judgement was based upon appearance. That is the root of white racism. It’s not what you do, what you have accomplish, how intelligent your are, how generous you are – just whether you are black or white,

    > What information exists to the contrary?

    > Since he was suspended three times, her deserves to be pressed and killed?

    > Keep wishing new evidence will prove Trayvon to be a dope dealing, junk addict so you can justify killing him without trial. This is called a lynching, and if the new Tea Party Christian movement supports lynching then the US HAS returned to it’s past Jim Crow, race hating position. God for give you.

    1. Ah, the projection goes on….

      A bunch of psycho racists trying to lynch a guy on no facts, and their defense is that their victim is a racist that lynched someone the only known eye witness saw beating his head against the ground.

      1. George Zimmerman had pre-judged Trayvon Martin and was determined to punish him – with death if necessary.

        “Are you following him?” the dispatcher asked. Zimmerman replied: “Yep.”

        “Okay, we don’t need you to do that,” the dispatcher warned.

      2. Yes, aaaand 911 operator’s liability out of the way, what’s your point?  If you’re silly enough to think “you don’t have to do that” is, as folks keep trying to claim, an order NOT to do it, I can’t help you.

        Never mind that, according to the people who spend time carefully listening to the entire, unedited tape, you can hear him head back to his car at that point.

    2. And just where did you get the impression I in anyway am in support of lynching?  My argument is precisely AGAINST that happening to Mr. Zimmerman – so obviously I wouldn’t be more it happening to anyone!!  As to your 1st point, I believe in judging someone by the content of their character, not on the color of their skin – unlike the liberal celebs and media who are crying white-on-black racism when Mr. Z is NOT EVEN CAUCASIAN!  If you’re gonna wave your finger at someone, perhaps that’s who you should be looking towards.

      1. Mr. Butterfield,

        You need not be concerned with George Zimmerman being lynched. He was fortunate enough to be part of the due process of law. Should he be arrested, he will most likely be tried and a jury will decide his fate. Again, much better treatment than Trayvon Martin received. Zimmerman has gained enough public attention to increase the possibility of a fair hearing. The world is watching. You fail to understand the main point of this tragedy. You seem to be primarily concerned with the treatment of George Zimmerman. You say:

         “The whole thing has become blown up by an over zealous media pouring gasoline on the ever-burning flame of racial tension.” 

        Are you surprised at the tremendous outcry from  so many people outraged by Trayvon Martin’s murder?  Why do you have so little compassion for what happened to him?

        You go on to say:

        “Trayvon was in fact suspended 3 times within the past year for various offenses.  By no means does that mean he deserved to be shot, but it does provide more evidence to the issue at hand…meaning he wasn’t squeaky clean.”

        Did Trayvon Martin have to be “squeaky clean” to  avoid being murdered by the one man vigilante? It appears from what you wrote that you are hoping there still may be evidence to vindicate Zimmerman’s actions. That is very telling. You feel Mr. Zimmerman needs to be defended. He has a lawyer and the due process of law to do that – unlike Trayvon Martin.

        I suggest you review the definition of the word “lynching’. I am afraid you do not understand the full literal meaning of the word. Apparently you are using it figuratively. In any event, you do yourself a disservice by not making yourself clear.

        lynch:

        “To put to death (as by hanging) by mob action without legal sanction.”

        Merriam-Webster Dictionary

        To punish (a person) without legal process or authority, especially by hanging, for a perceived offense or as an act of bigotry.

        Putting a person to death by mob action without due process of law

        Violent punishment or execution, without due process, for real or alleged crimes.

        The concept of taking the law into one’s own hands to punish a criminal almost certainly predates recorded history. Lynching (or “lynch law”) is usually associated in the United States with punishment directed toward blacks, who made up a highly disproportionate number of its victims. (While the origins of the term “lynch” are somewhat unclear, many sources cite William Lynch, an eighteenth-century plantation owner in Virginia who helped to mete out vigilante justice.)

        George Zimmerman is in no danger of being lynched.

        Ask yourself why you cannot believe Trayvon Martin was innocent and why you appear to hope George Zimmerman IS innocent.

        Perhaps some reflection and prayer might help.

      2. Hey, clue-by-four– have you maybe heard about the Black Panther morons’ bounty?  How about Spike Lee and Rosy spreading addresses of people to attack?

      3. Well that’s pretty hostile. Your’e down to name calling now. I’m only interested in an intelligent discussion.
        And you call yourself a Christian.
        This is the last you will here from me. 

      4. What I seek is the truth…it’s is then that justice will hopefully follow. If he was being attacked, he had a right to defend himself. I agree he shouldnot have followed him – that IS what caused all this in the first place. But, facts are not yet all revealed: could just end up being an accident – could be Zimmerman is guilty – could be self defense – could be someone else entirely. So ask YOURSELF why it’s so hard to think that Zimmerman may not be legally guilty of anything! Just ignorant and making a poor choice…

        Oh, and WTG with your last little “holier than thou” comment – classy!

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