atheist-bus_1217553cThe Gospel Coalition published an excerpt from an ebook from Patheos Press entitled True Reason: Christian Responses to the Challenge of Atheism.  The book featured chapters from different authors such as: noted philosopher William Lane Craig and popular apologist Sean McDowell, along with Tom Gilson, Carson Weitnauer, John DePoe, Chuck Edwards, Matthew Flannagan, Peter Grice, Randy Hardman, David Marshall, Glenn Sunshine, David Wood, and Samuel Youngs. The excerpt they published they titled “The Irony of Atheism.”  One passage from this excerpt written by Carson Weitnauer reads:

The contrasts are clear: atheists claim that religion is the main barrier to reason. Christians believe our capacity to reason comes from being created in the image of an all-knowing God, and the active use of reason is an important way to honor him. Atheists brand themselves as a community united by reason. Christians marvel at how this group rallies together even as their most prominent leader, Richard Dawkins, argues that evolution favors the selfish gene, not the reasonable group. Atheists work hard to eradicate religion for the sake of a brighter future. Christians are amazed that atheists so blissfully ignore the scientific fact that, if religion is a false consolation, the future always ends in death.

HT: Evangel

7 comments
  1. “Christians marvel at how this group rallies together even as their most prominent leader, Richard Dawkins, argues that evolution favors the selfish gene, not the reasonable group.”

    Yet another person who has only read the title.

    “Atheists work hard to eradicate religion for the sake of a brighter future. Christians are amazed that atheists so blissfully ignore the scientific fact that, if religion is a false consolation, the future always ends in death.”

    No, atheists are the ones who face it; we don’t make up an afterlife that no one has ever seen.

  2.  Carson Weitnauer writes, “Atheists brand themselves as a community united by reason.”

    Weitnauer – a Christian apologist – obviously disagrees with that so makes a couple of following remarks to ostensibly support his belief that atheists are not so consistent with reason after all – but which, ironically enough, actually serves to back up the criticisms atheists make, because of being “united by reason” you know, of the fallacious nature of the rhetoric so many religious apologists use so much.

    Weitnauer writes, “Christians marvel at how this group rallies together even as their most prominent leader, Richard Dawkins, argues that evolution favors the selfish gene, not the reasonable group.” Thus demonstrating exactly the typical ignorance of evolutionary concepts, and in particular of the concept of the “selfish gene”, that atheists get worked up about because atheists, being “united by reason”, think that spouting anti-science remarks based on ignorance is an “unreasonable” way to deal with ideas and with reality. Indeed, anyone who, in this particular example, had actually read what Dawkins wrote in his book *The Selfish Gene* would know that he spent considerable time discussing aspects of cooperative behavior evolving precisely because of genes “selfishly” increasing their rate of survival. Apparently Christian apologists such as Weitnauer are unaware, or unable to comprehend, such sophisticated nuanced concepts in science. Which explains why some atheists, “united by reason”, can’t help themselves but to laugh at pretensions of such apologetical rhetoric.

    Weitnauer also writes, “Christians are amazed that atheists so blissfully ignore the scientific fact that, if religion is a false consolation, the future always ends in death.” Thus again proving the fallacious thinking and obliviousness to reality inherent to the mind of the Christian apologist. Death is a real world fact. Every person alive today is going to die. Nothing anyone says or does is going to change this fact. Each person’s death is indeed in the future of that person. Always. Of course, that does not mean that the future of other people will no go on.

    Additionally, when have personal feelings ever dictated facts about reality? Reality is what it is completely regardless of a person’s feelings about it. Reality is not determined by “consolation”. Yet here we have a Christian apologist attempting to criticize the idea that atheists are “united by reason” by employing such an obviously fallacious premise.

    So atheists such as myself are actually grateful to religious believers when they so often inadvertantly supporting atheists’ criticism of faith as being irrational by so clearly demonstrating it for everyone.

    Thank you, Weitnauer.

  3. “Christians are amazed that atheists so blissfully ignore the scientific fact that, if religion is a false consolation, the future always ends in death.”

    So, instead of offering any evidence for your religion, the best that you can do is say that you want it to be true. I think that’s the difference with atheists – we’re interested in what actually is true, and we’re willing to test our hypotheses to see if they stand up.

  4. i started laughing to hard to continue when i saw “noted philosopher William Lane Craig”.  

      1. maybe.. but at least i can make a coherent argument for my lack of belief, which is more then wlc can do for his belief.

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