I started reading God & Government: An Insider’s View on the Boundaries Between Faith & Politics by Charles Colson a couple of days ago.  In first chapter titled “Kingdoms in Conflict” he shared a couple of quotes that stood in stark contrast from one another.

Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction

– Blaise Pascal

Without Christian culture and Christian hope, the modern world would come to resemble a half-derelict fun-fair, gone nasty and poverty-racked, one enormous Atlantic City.

– Russell Kirk

What do you think the appropriate role of faith in government should be?

12 comments
  1. Faith shouldn’t be what runs government, but it should be what runs the men and women who run government. In that way, we’ll keep our faith in God, and not in some system of doing things. Pharisitical government rarely (never?) works. A government run by people who operate under a faith in God tend to lead a nation in the right direction, even when there are bumps in the road.

    Deb Burtons last blog post..How To Tell If You Really Love God

  2. Faith shouldn’t be what runs government, but it should be what runs the men and women who run government. In that way, we’ll keep our faith in God, and not in some system of doing things. Pharisitical government rarely (never?) works. A government run by people who operate under a faith in God tend to lead a nation in the right direction, even when there are bumps in the road.

    Deb Burtons last blog post..How To Tell If You Really Love God

  3. Faith shouldn’t be what runs government, but it should be what runs the men and women who run government. In that way, we’ll keep our faith in God, and not in some system of doing things. Pharisitical government rarely (never?) works. A government run by people who operate under a faith in God tend to lead a nation in the right direction, even when there are bumps in the road.

    Deb Burtons last blog post..How To Tell If You Really Love God

  4. I agree with Deb’s comment. My concern is when our leaders’ (at all levels of gevernmant) faith gets a bit weird and they confuse the will of God with what they are doing.. tends to lead them in a path where those who oppose their ideas are perceived as people opposing God’s will.. can get very strange.

    Kansas Bobs last blog post..The Letter Kills

  5. I agree with Deb’s comment. My concern is when our leaders’ (at all levels of gevernmant) faith gets a bit weird and they confuse the will of God with what they are doing.. tends to lead them in a path where those who oppose their ideas are perceived as people opposing God’s will.. can get very strange.

    Kansas Bobs last blog post..The Letter Kills

  6. I agree with Deb’s comment. My concern is when our leaders’ (at all levels of gevernmant) faith gets a bit weird and they confuse the will of God with what they are doing.. tends to lead them in a path where those who oppose their ideas are perceived as people opposing God’s will.. can get very strange.

    Kansas Bobs last blog post..The Letter Kills

  7. @Deb – great thoughts Deb.

    @Kansas Bob – what if what they are doing is God’s will? Think it, but don’t communicate it? Because doesn’t God have a purpose and plan for the President just like He does you and I?

  8. @Deb – great thoughts Deb.

    @Kansas Bob – what if what they are doing is God’s will? Think it, but don’t communicate it? Because doesn’t God have a purpose and plan for the President just like He does you and I?

  9. @Deb – great thoughts Deb.

    @Kansas Bob – what if what they are doing is God’s will? Think it, but don’t communicate it? Because doesn’t God have a purpose and plan for the President just like He does you and I?

  10. This is where religious people can get really strange Shane. I think that things get strange when God’s will for ‘me’ is accentuated over God’s will for ‘us’. Why not say that God has a will for ‘us’ and not just ‘me’?

    Frankly speaking President Bush is a sad example of this kind of thinking. His confusion about God’s will and the spread of demoracy has taken him to strange places in the Mideast.

    In leadership I have always told folks (be it on a church committee, church board or other team venues) that it is not all about what God is saying to ‘you’ but what God is saying to ‘us’.

    Churches are not very good at this though because they have bought into ‘me’ instead of ‘we’.. it is why the government so many churches embrace voting over consensus.

    Here endeth the rant 🙂

    Kansas Bobs last blog post..The Letter Kills

  11. This is where religious people can get really strange Shane. I think that things get strange when God’s will for ‘me’ is accentuated over God’s will for ‘us’. Why not say that God has a will for ‘us’ and not just ‘me’?

    Frankly speaking President Bush is a sad example of this kind of thinking. His confusion about God’s will and the spread of demoracy has taken him to strange places in the Mideast.

    In leadership I have always told folks (be it on a church committee, church board or other team venues) that it is not all about what God is saying to ‘you’ but what God is saying to ‘us’.

    Churches are not very good at this though because they have bought into ‘me’ instead of ‘we’.. it is why the government so many churches embrace voting over consensus.

    Here endeth the rant 🙂

    Kansas Bobs last blog post..The Letter Kills

  12. This is where religious people can get really strange Shane. I think that things get strange when God’s will for ‘me’ is accentuated over God’s will for ‘us’. Why not say that God has a will for ‘us’ and not just ‘me’?

    Frankly speaking President Bush is a sad example of this kind of thinking. His confusion about God’s will and the spread of demoracy has taken him to strange places in the Mideast.

    In leadership I have always told folks (be it on a church committee, church board or other team venues) that it is not all about what God is saying to ‘you’ but what God is saying to ‘us’.

    Churches are not very good at this though because they have bought into ‘me’ instead of ‘we’.. it is why the government so many churches embrace voting over consensus.

    Here endeth the rant 🙂

    Kansas Bobs last blog post..The Letter Kills

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