Rick Santorum, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich and Ron Paul before CNN-Southern Republican Debate in Charleston, SC

It’s great to see the field whittled down to four.  Rick Santorum who a month ago barely got any time in the debates had some key moments in the CNN Southern Republican Debate held tonight in Charleston, SC.

First was an exchange that Santorum had with Mitt Romney over RomneyCare.

Next Santorum had an exchange with Ron Paul over the issue of abortion.

Santorum is right, this is a federal issue. If a state made murder legal do you not think that they would not intervene? It’s an asinine argument. States actually prosecute murder. Even before Roe V. Wade there were states that allowed abortion in certain exceptions. Either we have an inalienable right to life or we don’t. States should not have the right to take away life without due process… that’s in the Constitution Dr. Paul, check out the 5th and 14th Amendments.  Certainly we need to battle abortion at the state level, but it must be dealt with at the Federal level as well.

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  1. Shane, if a substantial number of people want to have an abortion, they will no matter what the law says.  This is a battle of ideas. Dr. Paul has done more to spread the ideas about the protection of life than all the candidates on the stage put together – in his personal, professional, and public life.  For the first time in at least 50 years – young people are lining up to support a person who supports right to life – and they’re reading about it in his books.  How many “hearts” do you think Santorum has won?  Your ilk think that passing some federal law and enforcing it at the federal level (which is unconstitutional no matter how much you rant about it) forcing people to obey will solve any problem – well, that’s not what Jesus proposed.  With your arrogant and forceful policies, you will just push people away from your position and turn them off.  If pro-lifers really want to make a difference, we need to get off our a** and start offering solutions to young pregnant teenagers – that’s the kind of policy Jesus preached about.

    1. You are making an assumption that providing alternatives isn’t being done. I can think of a number of organizations/ministries that offer significant help in this area in my city alone.

      Policy and Care – it isn’t either/or it should be both/and.

  2. Shane, is capital murder a federal issue? If so, why is there not a federal law? Why do Murders stand trial in state criminal court, and not federal court?

    In this country the vast majority of our criminal justice system has been intrusted to the states wisely following the 10th amendment.

    Paul’s position on abortion is the right one. Pass a federal bill recognizing the personhood of the fetus, and then let the states enforce their ALREADY existing laws on violence towards individuals, and INSTANTLY abortion becomes illegal.

    The current chess game of legal wrangling has lasted 30 years and hasn’t gotten us much.

  3. My comments are on the topic, journalism quality aside.
     
    Ron Paul has been consistent on this issue. Many people don’t know that “Ron Paul wrote a book in 1983 entitled Abortion and Liberty where he discusses the ramifications of the heinous act of the murder of innocents. Ronald Reagan’s Surgeon General, C. Everett Koop wrote the forward where he praises Paul’s thoughtful position on this issue and its impact on the natural rights of men.” Ron Paul’s consistency on issues flies in the face of the hypocricy of the other candidates. His stance is to return the abortion issue back to the States because he believes it is a States issue and not Federal. Thus, in one swoop, Roe vs. Wade would be overturned. Pretty clever, eh?But, Santorum who criticized Ron Paul for not voting at the Federal level on an issue, voted against “Right to Work” because it went against what his State did. This is where a shining light shows the difference between Ron Paul and Santorum. Ron Paul votes his convictions consistently, Santorum would vote against his convictions because as he said “I was representing my State…” And, what if Pennsylvania was for abortion, or for gun control, I wonder what would Santorum have voted?BTW, I live in Texas and know someone who was delivered by Ron Paul when he was a doctor. Pretty cool to think that an ex-doctor and possible next President brought life into the world instead of taking it away. Ron Paul is very Pro-Life, which is why he is also against unjust and unconstitutional wars, though that is another topic, but on the point of how much this man cherishes life (liberty and the pursuit of happiness)!Ron Paul 2012. The only honest and sane candidate there is.     

  4. He’s not 100% if you look at his entire voting record on bills they registered on – 
    http://nrlc.www.capwiz.com/bio/id/567&lvl=C&chamber=H.

    I would say that Santorum was fed wrong information because it isn’t like he’s looking it up himself.  Candidates don’t do their own opp research.

    But you ought to see the crap that the Paul campaign sends me in the form of press releases.  So please get off your high horse.  He’s run the dirtiest, mudslinging campaign I’ve seen in quite some time worse than even Romney.  Santorum has largely stayed positive.

    His position on the 14th Amendment is just simply flawed – http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/27/25741/  if you take his position to its natural conclusion ie. 10th Amendment trumps the 14th… well you know where that goes.

    Here are some bills that he voted against – http://chip91.wordpress.com/pro-life/

    And I know I’m going to hear “expansion of government” blah, blah, blah… these were common sense bills.  I totally, utterly disagree with him that protecting life is a state issue.  That flies in the face of the Declaration, the 5th and the 14th Amendments to the Constitution.  Show me a state that allows murder?  If one suggested it the Feds would rightly become involved.  Life is an inalienable right and should be protected at all levels.

  5. He’s not 100% if you look at his entire voting record on bills they registered on – 
    http://nrlc.www.capwiz.com/bio/id/567&lvl=C&chamber=H.

    I would say that Santorum was fed wrong information because it isn’t like he’s looking it up himself.  Candidates don’t do their own opp research.

    But you ought to see the crap that the Paul campaign sends me in the form of press releases.  So please get off your high horse.  He’s run the dirtiest, mudslinging campaign I’ve seen in quite some time worse than even Romney.  Santorum has largely stayed positive.

    His position on the 14th Amendment is just simply flawed – http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/27/25741/  if you take his position to its natural conclusion ie. 10th Amendment trumps the 14th… well you know where that goes.

    Here are some bills that he voted against – http://chip91.wordpress.com/pro-life/

    And I know I’m going to hear “expansion of government” blah, blah, blah… these were common sense bills.  I totally, utterly disagree with him that protecting life is a state issue.  That flies in the face of the Declaration, the 5th and the 14th Amendments to the Constitution.  Show me a state that allows murder?  If one suggested it the Feds would rightly become involved.  Life is an inalienable right and should be protected at all levels.

  6. He’s not 100% if you look at his entire voting record on bills they registered on – http://nrlc.www.capwiz.com/bio/id/567&lvl=C&chamber=H.
    I would say that Santorum was fed wrong information because it isn’t like he’s looking it up himself. Candidates don’t do their own opp research.
    But you ought to see the crap that the Paul campaign sends me in the form of press releases. He’s run the dirtiest, mudslinging campaign that I’ve personally seen during a primary campaign. Santorum has largely stayed positive.

    His position on the 14th Amendment is just simply flawed – http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/27/25741/ if you take his position to its natural conclusion ie. 10th Amendment trumps the 14th… well you know where that goes.

    Here are some bills that he voted against – http://chip91.wordpress.com/pro-life/

    And I know I’m going to hear “expansion of government” blah, blah, blah… these were common sense bills. I totally, utterly disagree with him that protecting life is a state issue. That flies in the face of the Declaration, the 5th and the 14th Amendments to the Constitution. Show me a state that allows murder? If one suggested it the Feds would rightly
    become involved. Life is an inalienable right and should be protected at
    all levels.

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